Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of all time?
Author: admin Category: Idiot Proof Weight LossAll hail King Pacquiao, the most carefully managed, over hyped boxer in the history of the sport.
A careful process of Bob Arum match making him against the most beatable opponents possible, to try and convince fight fans that this isn’t the same guy who lost 10 out of 12 rounds with Marquez, before running away, and ducking a third bout.
Let’s go through the legends career, honestly, and based on fact.
His "dominance" at the small weights was little more than being destroyed by Medgoen Singsurat, before ducking his contracted re-match, and running away.
He then got the most corrupt "Arum" decision in boxing history, with a gift of a draw against Sanchez. A matter of months before Arum was investigated by the FBI for fixing fights.
Did he re-match his lucky decision. Like Mayweather and Castillo? No, the "warrior" ran away again!
He then made his name in against a shop worn Barrera, before he got another ridiculous "Arum" decision. Getting gifted a draw in a bout most people think he lost by about three rounds. Completely out boxed and outclassed.
He then got completely outclassed again by a shop worn Morales, who was only 70% of his peak skills. Being so hopelessly outclassed, that Morales started boxing southpaw for the last three rounds.
So, let’s have a look—without dodgy "Arum" decisions, we’d be looking at five losses by now.
His entire career based on lucky decisions it seems.
What happens next can only be described as an Arum lesson in hype building. He’d been hopelessly outclassed in his last few fights, so Arum starts putting him in with shot names.
Morales had already been destroyed by a complete journeyman by the time of the rematch, and was not respected as a genuine elite fighter any more by then. Does Arum go after someone better?
No! He makes the fight anyway. To prove once and for all that Manny is as good a fighter as Zahir Reeham…
Are we thinking about facing young elite super feathers now?
No! Let’s face the shot name again!
Right, are we ready to face a young elite super feather yet?
No! Let’s get back in with another shot name in Barrera. A guy we beat easily years ago!
So Arum has done a nice job rebuilding an exposed fighter, by putting him in with a series of shot names, who were way past their best.
And then he finally goes in with another elite, peak pfp opponent, and he gets schooled again! Losing nearly every round. Surely, this has finally shown that he’s not half the fighter Arum has tried to project, and Marquez will get his deserved UD.
No! Another "Arum" decisions saves him. Does the "warrior" rematch the close decision. No, he runs away again. Just like with all his losses, and close decisions.
So again, we are in a position where the world realises that Pacquiao as a fighter is maybe two-percent better than Juan Marquez.
So Arum builds the hype again, by hand picking a load of idiot-proof opponents, who won’t expose any of Manny’s many weaknesses.
David Diaz. Hands down the worst lightweight champion I have ever seen. Did Manny go for Casamayor, or Juan Diaz. No, he picks the chump. The easiest fight there. Anyone remember Mayweather picking the HARDEST lightweight fight available when he made the same move!? And then rematching him when he got a close decision.
Manny picking the easiest. And throughout his career continually running away from close fights.
What now? We can’t accuse Mayweather of taking easy "name fights" when he became "the man", and face Oscar as well can we?
Hell yeah!
The guys shot, old, and nearly lost to Steve Forbes at 150 as the weight drop was too much. So you’d think Manny would grow a set and fight him at at least 150, to make a fight of it.
No, let’s make a shot 36 year-old fighter, who can’t even make 150, boil down to 147. And then make him agree to not come in over 147, so he isn’t too heavy.
Oscar’s usual in right weight at welter—165.
What "the warrior" asked him to come in at 147
So you’ve faced one bum, and one shot name. Surely an elite, peaked, tough guy now!
No, Ricky Hatton. The same "cherry picked" opponent that you accuse Mayweather of taking. Not only that, but he’s completely shot by then! At least he was peak versus Mayweather.
Hatton here is shot, exposed, and most of the media wanted him to retire after nearly getting knocked out by journeyman Juan Lazcano.
That’s a great opponent when your trying to rebuild an exposed fighters reputation!
Shane Mosely, the Divisional No. 1 calls you out, and says he will fight you at only 20% of the purse split. A record purse.
Roach doesn’t want it though as he wants "guys who come to fight". Translated, a fighter who won’t expose Pacquiao again likle Marquez. So takes an exposed Divisional No. 3 in Cotto, for half of the purse.
Turns down one of the only true superfights in boxing, for an exposed Cotto, who struggled to even beat bum of the week Clottey.
All because he wanted a
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I’m waiting for your response, Khalil
Excellent Link!!!! Wow!!! I never thought of it like that.
Nobody ever seen Pacquiao beat anybody special (everybody great Pac beat had already been beaten badly before).
So I guess he is overrated. He’s surely over hyped. I don’t think too many people will be buying the Clottey fight on PPV. I’m saving my already too expensive cable bill money for Mosley.
Sugar Shane vs Money May is sure to break PPV records.
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February 1st, 2010
The only impressive victory to me was against cotto. I only seen the second fight with juan manuel marquez and I have to agree manny lost that fight but was handed the victory.
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February 1st, 2010
hello,
interesting write up. some things jump out though. at best, much of what you say is conjecture or pseudoscientific jargon.
you mention "arum" decisions. does this mean that "arum" makes all decisions in manny pacquiao fights? do you have proof?
you mention a fighter being 70% of their peak ability. how do you acquire this figure? is this a quantitative measure, or a qualitative one? one wonders the same about your assertion of pacquiao being 2% better than marquez.
phrases like "shop worn" and "shot" seem to be qualitative measures. again, one wonders how you figure this.
at one point you even compare some of the fighters to "chump" and "bum". in what way are they "chump" and "bum"? did you fight and beat them? again, this appears to be a qualitative measure, but it is unclear how you arrive at this….. value.
it is clear from your writing that you really despise the reputation garnered by manny pacquiao, still, much of what you have written appears to be speculative at best.
perhaps if you could rewrite this, or add supporting evidence it would help us to understand your thinking. try to remember that unless we were at the negotiating table, we probably won’t ever really know what went on, or why certain decisions got made. nothing wrong with that, it just means we shouldn’t be jumping to conclusions.
in answer to the original question, manny pacquiao is not the most highly overrated fighter of all time. there are many who were regarded as highly or more highly who really didn’t warrant such accolades.
still, this is an interesting topic.
thanks
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February 1st, 2010
Your a smart dude. I’m going to star your question because i appreaciate how you Broke it down for these PacTards, and 75 % of the feed back you going to get will be negative but your right. Finally someone not sippin the Pacquaio Kool-Aid, Bob Arum, Freddy Roach, the examiner and Espn been feeding you guys. Floyd to me will, outclass Pacquaio. You pretty much showed us how Pacman fights against boxers not fighters hence Marquez, and Morales. Floyd wont keep stepping forward, he will make Pacman chase him and fustrate him unlike like Hatton, Delahoya, Cotto and ext. I think Mosley would beat him aswell. I see Mosley as a bigger viersion of him who fights better inside and can clinch.
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February 1st, 2010
i dont know.. ask the person he knocked out! and the 7 titles on his waist.
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February 1st, 2010
Excellent Link!!!! Wow!!! I never thought of it like that.
Nobody ever seen Pacquiao beat anybody special (everybody great Pac beat had already been beaten badly before).
So I guess he is overrated. He’s surely over hyped. I don’t think too many people will be buying the Clottey fight on PPV. I’m saving my already too expensive cable bill money for Mosley.
Sugar Shane vs Money May is sure to break PPV records.
Yes!!!
THANK YOU GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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February 1st, 2010
Manny deserves to be where he’s at right now. Finally, he enjoys the fruit of his labors. Sweat and bloods.To those jealous people who can not accept him being placed on the top of boxing. Dream big. Don not stay envious. Who knows someday, somehow, you’ll have your time to be great, too.
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February 1st, 2010
No. That award goes to Ricky Hatton without a doubt!!!!!!
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February 1st, 2010
Mayweather is the most overrated fighter. Carytop is the most overrated writer.
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February 1st, 2010
OMG. This write-up should also be posted in Examiner .com…But IMO, how will you rate then a boxer who’s got seven titles in seven weight divisions? If this is overrating, the one’s who did not achieve the feat are the standards? or just the ordinary? Hmmmm…I really don’t know what you’re driving at. He has beaten champions in every weight division, that fact is what i know…Well, I’ll give Pac the credit the way I give Mayweather in his brilliant career. Besides, Pacquiao is overwhelmingly accepted by the boxing experts and media as the fighter of the decade…They have credited him his works for the past 10 years..
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February 1st, 2010
I read "Top Rank corrupt decision draw against Sanchez" and stopped reading….Pacquiao wasn’t even WITH Top Rank in 2001. Cary Top should have done some research first.
Take this to boxingnews24, I hear they fired Manuela Perez…they need another Pac Hater wanna be writer.
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February 1st, 2010
They got you carytop. What can you say now? Are you floyd sr.? Seriously?
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February 1st, 2010
Carytop,
your question is a sign of desperation. Pacquiao is the Lord of the Ring!
He was named FIGHTER OF THE DECADE.
floyd is…. whhhatt???? hahahaha nothing.
IN YOUR FACE !! Carytop.
jealousy won’t get you nowhere. stop asking questions like these. stop embarrassing yourself.
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February 1st, 2010
Lets face it all the pactards would be up in arm if floyd didnt fight mosely and they are up in arms because he is fighting mosely. Because Shane and Floyd are both taking random blood tests and Pac isnt, i put both Floyd and shane ahaead of pac on all the lists and the media is sure to follw soon.
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February 1st, 2010
Manny PUNK OUT is my pick for most overrated of all time.
PUNK OUT refused random blood and urine tests = PUNK OUT is a JUICER.
JUICERS are not athletes; JUICERS are JOKES.
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February 1st, 2010
Why can’t these two boxers slug it out in the ring? Enough of these talks! God knows who used PEDs and who does not. Performance in previous fights is a thing of the past. They may have their own share of accolades, but that was before. What matters is what’s going to happen inside the ring. But sad to say, it may never happen…
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February 1st, 2010
LMAOOOO all of his awards are just okey for what he done in boxing. who else do you think should be awarded by fighter of the decade? floyd the ducker? i dont think so. JEALOUSY man JEALOUSY its all JEALOUSY. you make me laugh. i pity you guys
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February 1st, 2010
Jealous, what else?
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February 1st, 2010
LMFAO!!!
PACQUIAOS FIRST 10 FIGHTS ON AMERICAN SOIL WAS IMPRESSIVE… AND GUESS WHAT??? HE WASNT EVEN CLOSE TO HIS "PRIME" YET!!! LOL.. AND JUST LOOK AT THE DAMAGE HE CAUSED..
SHANE MOSLEY NO.1? COTTO NO. 3? THE HOW THEN FUKC DID MOSLEY LOSE TO COTTO??? AND WHY FIGHT THE LOSSER OF THE TWO??? LOL
YOUR ACCUSATIONS ARE SOOOOOO STUPID. DONT MAKE SENSE..
DE LA HOYA WANTED TO FIGHT PACQUIAO.. THERFORE TEAM PACQUIAO CALLS THE SHOTS.. SO OF COURSE HE HAD TO AGREE ON THE WEIGHT!!! PACMAN IS THE CASH COW.. EVERYONE WANTS TO FIGHT HIM FOR THE BIG PAYDAY YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT!
HOW CAN YOU GET KNOCKED DOWN THREE TIME, NO, WAIT.. FOUR TIMES IN TWO MEETINGS AND SAY YOU WON CONVIENCINGLY.. MOVE ON.. MARQUEZ LOST.. GET OVER IT !!!!
COTTO.. DIAZ .. DELAHOYA HATTON SHUD ALL BE HIRED AS SPARRING PARTNERS FOR PACQUIAO..
CMON… CARYTOP.. JUST ADMIT IT.. PACQUIAO IS THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.. HE HAS THE SPEED POWER HEART FOOOTWORK AND CHIN… I WANNA SEE WHAT YOU WRITE WHEN HE BEATS CLOTTEY AND THEN THE WINNER OF MOSLEY MAYWEATHER.. YOU WILL STILL BE IN DENIAL…. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE.
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February 4th, 2010
Please check your link. It says "Philadelphia Flyers Ink Steve Eminger to a One Year Deal"
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/33635-philadelphia-flyers-ink-steve-eminger-to-a-one-year-deal